Happy to see Aaron kicking butt, as for who do I want to see win? Appletun… just once like hell put appletun in a team in like 3 or 4th place just something. It's an amazing pokemon and people are just kind of you know not seeing this
Abdullah's team is actually just NailsOU's top 4 Knoxville team, as mentioned on interview. Looking back, even Nails said he got carried by his team, and after playing the team, this team is just so good and comfortable to play with
Can we acknowledge how diverse the scarlet and violet regulation metas have been since the beginning. We’ve seen so many interesting Pokémon, items, moves, and abilities shine.
Hard Trick Room with Torkoal+Lilligant is what got me into VGCin the first place back in Gen 7 series 1, while I struggled to use it this gen I’m so happy it managed to win a regional
Fun fact, if VGC was played at level 100, lilligant and bundle would speed tie. I know this bc I did the calc while watching and forgot to change the level, so I thought Abdullah was either getting insanely lucky or the bundle was not max speed
Is it just me, or is the tPCI kinda biased against Violet version, at least competetively? I mean, look at the exclusive paradox pokemon here – we have 5 Great Tusks, 5 Flutter Mane, 2 Brute Bonnet and one Roaring Moon, while from Violet we see 5 Iron Bundle and 1 Iron Hands. Not to mention the last even raid, where Scarlet got the competetively better mon in Walking Wake, while Violet got Iron Leaves, which, while not bad, isn´t quite at that level.
People weren't taking me seriously when i said they need to be prepared for Lilligant. If i remember correctly you'd need a base 137 speed choice scarf max speed invested (with +speed nature) pokemon in order to outspeed every Lilligant and the only two pokemon that are not legendary who match this criteria are Electrode (who doesn't threaten Lilligant) and Dragapult (who actually seems to be best option and i'd argue the only option). Still Lilligant most likely carry Focus Sash so you may still not KO it turn one. Dual Wingbeat Talonflame would be the solution but they removed that move from this pokemon learnset. Still a Brave Brid Talonflame + choice scarf Dragapult could delte this mon, but since Terastalize exist and you'd want to be 100% sure you'd always delete Lilligant before it can use After you or Sleep Powder then you'd might consider using fire move from Dragapult on Lilligant (esentially doubling in on one slot and ignoring Torkoal threat) because Steel Tera Lilligant will take very little from Brave Bird. But it might be Rock Tera instead to resist both flying and fire (and i'd say it's amazing Tera for any grass type) so perhaps Surf from Dragapult is the way. It will be weakened by the sun though, and you still hurt ally Talonflame (consider tera dragon/water/grass talon flame?). This all get very messy because since this lead of yours would be so obvious, Lilligant might just use Protect and Torkoal could Yawn you instead. I'd argue better would be to remove the sun weather or have Pincurchin to at least prevent the sleep (or safety googles and lum berry?). You see how crazy it get's – the existance of this combination kinda forces your item choices. Though you may still do well for example with Dragon Tera Dondozo who has Safety Googles. Not sure if you'd want that item on dozo though. Changing the weather is also tricky in this situation because (provided you don't carry Lagging Tail on your weather setter) the enemy can simply lead with Torkoal or swap it in. Meanwhile every other weather setter will have to consider both scenarios to be true while in team preview (you can't simply lead for example with Pelipper because if they predict that and swap torkoal in turn 1 then you lose momentum and get's something put to sleep most likely). Prankster Tailwind might sound like nice idea but if you really don't want to take sun boosted Eruption/Heat Wave and/or potential sleep combo then you'd want to utilize Prankster Rain Dance. This would negate the chlorophyll, ensure that raw swap-in torkoal will not keep their weather (swap takes place first before moves are used) and in case Torkoal was already in the lead you will cripple it's fire moves damage by half. Problem still exist though because fast choice scarfed pivot moves exist and if enemy will see potential Prankster/Rain dance coming in team preview (though currently nobody seems to utilize that so you may get your moment of surprise) then they can lead with it and keep the sunny weather for sure (provided they will target mon who doesn't protect turn 1). Since Volt Switch can be countered with LightingRod/ground type/tera type etc and Flip turn is limited to 2 mons (and can be also countered with certain abilities) you'd have to worry about U-turn most of the time and you know what is super fast and has U-turn? That's right, Dragapult. And while choice scarfed Iron bundle on electric terrain WILL outspeed Lilligant in the sun, it can't really 1 shot it if it has focus sash (and certainly not if it goes for tera rock/steel) and your leading partner would have to be either Pincurchin or Miraidon and those will not outspeed Lilligant if you already got scarf on Iron Bundle. Still you may tank a hit on Miraidon because it's a dragon but you wouldn't like Earthpower coming your way while lilligant deletes iron bundle. And its not like youd want to lose dragon type resistances so the only safe Tera in this would be tera Dragon on Miraidon. But nvm that for now since Miraidon isn't even available yet for ranked battle series. I'd argue that your best option would be to run scarf Dragapult yourself with U-turn, and having Pelipper on the back (propably with Safety Googles) while also having in the lead something that can either threaten Torkoal (any swift swimmer will do for that) but also to be able to get rid of Lilligant in case you'd not want to be put to sleep. Floatzel feels like solid option but really you could use anything that has 91 base speed or higher at that point since Lilligant's chlorophyl would not be active if you pivot in your Pelipper. Another dragon (perhaps Dragonite) could work. Especially because Extreme speed will deal well against any speed boosting abilities.
TL'DR just like people need to be ready for dondozo-tatsugiri and indeedee-armarouge they also need to be ready for torkoal-lilligant.
I want you to do a similar video for the LatAm Regionals in Natal that happened the same weekend as Vancouver's. Lots of cool stuff there, including the rise of Gholdengo (runner-up team had Tera Water, and there was WP Gholdengo + Maushold in top4). And the icing on the cake was Tera Bug Sandy Shocks getting top4 as well.
I wonder if hisuin Lilligant would still fill this role or if it would struggle to fit after you in its moveset alongside Victory Dance and stabs and protect
Always happy to see less popular and less "viable" mons make it in top placements, let alone winning stuff, good job to Abdullah
Neil and Ryan did incredible! Shoutouts to them. Abdullah's run was insane
Imagine running Hisuian lilligant + torkoal
Liligant <33333
Pretty wild to see Lilligant taking a big win like this, curious to see how the format changes as a result
I wanna see Snow completely upend everyone's expectations of the meta personally
Links to the channels in the description don't work, only Cybertron, at least on phone
I want to see Slither Wing win a tournament (if he did already I don't know about it) he is so cute.
Psychic Tera crabominable. Pair it with psychic terrain and you are 1 shotting iron hands
Happy to see Aaron kicking butt, as for who do I want to see win? Appletun… just once like hell put appletun in a team in like 3 or 4th place just something. It's an amazing pokemon and people are just kind of you know not seeing this
It's nice to see a liligant win a regional ngl I know am probably crazy for saying it but I would lowkey like to espeon put in some work in tournament
The lack of palafin surprises me
I told you Torkoal was still good!!!
Abdullah Mohayyuddin is just that dude. He repped Canada (and Alberta) so hard. His first in-person event was only last summer, what an insane run.
Abdullah's team is actually just NailsOU's top 4 Knoxville team, as mentioned on interview. Looking back, even Nails said he got carried by his team, and after playing the team, this team is just so good and comfortable to play with
back to back regionals where the new kid on the block wins. new players makin waves rn
Can we acknowledge how diverse the scarlet and violet regulation metas have been since the beginning. We’ve seen so many interesting Pokémon, items, moves, and abilities shine.
Betting money on a HUGE increase in fire tauros for regC. He has an amazing matchup into 3/4ths of the ruins
Hard Trick Room with Torkoal+Lilligant is what got me into VGCin the first place back in Gen 7 series 1, while I struggled to use it this gen I’m so happy it managed to win a regional
While it didn't win, I was excited to see how much work T-tar put in
I mean liligant torkoal is strong
So did Torkoal finally beat charity mom allegations?
I’d love to see more niche tailwind setters finally have a breakthrough. Something like sticky web masquerain or even rage powder jumpluff
I want Iron Valiant to win something 😢 it only needs like half the tier to be banned somehow and then it can surely do well
QOTD: Spidops. Remember the name.
Can you make a Worry Seed mon work? Shadow Tag and Unaware would be fun to get rid of
You forgot to mention that Zack Thornberg did the perish tatsugiri strat and psyche up on sylveon. It almost worked on stream lol
Aaron had tera ground eq on bax not tera poison
His plan was to span eq with talonflam
QOTD: We want MOXIE himself to win the next regional!
Fun fact, if VGC was played at level 100, lilligant and bundle would speed tie. I know this bc I did the calc while watching and forgot to change the level, so I thought Abdullah was either getting insanely lucky or the bundle was not max speed
Omg i didn't realize Neil Patel was Neil VGC! Seeing you guys on stage was awesome! Keep up the content! Love ya!
Garchomp fell off hard, Great Tusk is probably a little too great.
Is it just me, or is the tPCI kinda biased against Violet version, at least competetively? I mean, look at the exclusive paradox pokemon here – we have 5 Great Tusks, 5 Flutter Mane, 2 Brute Bonnet and one Roaring Moon, while from Violet we see 5 Iron Bundle and 1 Iron Hands. Not to mention the last even raid, where Scarlet got the competetively better mon in Walking Wake, while Violet got Iron Leaves, which, while not bad, isn´t quite at that level.
People weren't taking me seriously when i said they need to be prepared for Lilligant.
If i remember correctly you'd need a base 137 speed choice scarf max speed invested (with +speed nature) pokemon in order to outspeed every Lilligant and the only two pokemon that are not legendary who match this criteria are Electrode (who doesn't threaten Lilligant) and Dragapult (who actually seems to be best option and i'd argue the only option).
Still Lilligant most likely carry Focus Sash so you may still not KO it turn one.
Dual Wingbeat Talonflame would be the solution but they removed that move from this pokemon learnset. Still a Brave Brid Talonflame + choice scarf Dragapult could delte this mon, but since Terastalize exist and you'd want to be 100% sure you'd always delete Lilligant before it can use After you or Sleep Powder then you'd might consider using fire move from Dragapult on Lilligant (esentially doubling in on one slot and ignoring Torkoal threat) because Steel Tera Lilligant will take very little from Brave Bird. But it might be Rock Tera instead to resist both flying and fire (and i'd say it's amazing Tera for any grass type) so perhaps Surf from Dragapult is the way. It will be weakened by the sun though, and you still hurt ally Talonflame (consider tera dragon/water/grass talon flame?). This all get very messy because since this lead of yours would be so obvious, Lilligant might just use Protect and Torkoal could Yawn you instead.
I'd argue better would be to remove the sun weather or have Pincurchin to at least prevent the sleep (or safety googles and lum berry?). You see how crazy it get's – the existance of this combination kinda forces your item choices.
Though you may still do well for example with Dragon Tera Dondozo who has Safety Googles. Not sure if you'd want that item on dozo though.
Changing the weather is also tricky in this situation because (provided you don't carry Lagging Tail on your weather setter) the enemy can simply lead with Torkoal or swap it in. Meanwhile every other weather setter will have to consider both scenarios to be true while in team preview (you can't simply lead for example with Pelipper because if they predict that and swap torkoal in turn 1 then you lose momentum and get's something put to sleep most likely).
Prankster Tailwind might sound like nice idea but if you really don't want to take sun boosted Eruption/Heat Wave and/or potential sleep combo then you'd want to utilize Prankster Rain Dance. This would negate the chlorophyll, ensure that raw swap-in torkoal will not keep their weather (swap takes place first before moves are used) and in case Torkoal was already in the lead you will cripple it's fire moves damage by half. Problem still exist though because fast choice scarfed pivot moves exist and if enemy will see potential Prankster/Rain dance coming in team preview (though currently nobody seems to utilize that so you may get your moment of surprise) then they can lead with it and keep the sunny weather for sure (provided they will target mon who doesn't protect turn 1). Since Volt Switch can be countered with LightingRod/ground type/tera type etc and Flip turn is limited to 2 mons (and can be also countered with certain abilities) you'd have to worry about U-turn most of the time and you know what is super fast and has U-turn? That's right, Dragapult.
And while choice scarfed Iron bundle on electric terrain WILL outspeed Lilligant in the sun, it can't really 1 shot it if it has focus sash (and certainly not if it goes for tera rock/steel) and your leading partner would have to be either Pincurchin or Miraidon and those will not outspeed Lilligant if you already got scarf on Iron Bundle. Still you may tank a hit on Miraidon because it's a dragon but you wouldn't like Earthpower coming your way while lilligant deletes iron bundle. And its not like youd want to lose dragon type resistances so the only safe Tera in this would be tera Dragon on Miraidon. But nvm that for now since Miraidon isn't even available yet for ranked battle series.
I'd argue that your best option would be to run scarf Dragapult yourself with U-turn, and having Pelipper on the back (propably with Safety Googles) while also having in the lead something that can either threaten Torkoal (any swift swimmer will do for that) but also to be able to get rid of Lilligant in case you'd not want to be put to sleep. Floatzel feels like solid option but really you could use anything that has 91 base speed or higher at that point since Lilligant's chlorophyl would not be active if you pivot in your Pelipper. Another dragon (perhaps Dragonite) could work. Especially because Extreme speed will deal well against any speed boosting abilities.
TL'DR just like people need to be ready for dondozo-tatsugiri and indeedee-armarouge they also need to be ready for torkoal-lilligant.
I want you to do a similar video for the LatAm Regionals in Natal that happened the same weekend as Vancouver's. Lots of cool stuff there, including the rise of Gholdengo (runner-up team had Tera Water, and there was WP Gholdengo + Maushold in top4). And the icing on the cake was Tera Bug Sandy Shocks getting top4 as well.
The elegant lily has entered the fight! Liligant’s given me some trouble in Reg C practice on Showdown, the one time I ran into it.
I wonder if hisuin Lilligant would still fill this role or if it would struggle to fit after you in its moveset alongside Victory Dance and stabs and protect
Bellibolt in day 2 of regionals
PM7: excited frog noises
Lilligant is my favourite pokemon of all time, awesome to see someone win with it
YES FINALLY MY PLANT GIRL DID IT
It’s really cool seeing Brady on here, getting two POVs for tourney results is actually super interesting to listen to
I was there in the audience! It was a very exciting and entertaining tournament. For once 🙄
Go team Canada! 🇨🇦
With a Sun team winning, I hope it inspires a revival of weather wars
Rain, Rain, go away, come back another day,
Rain, rain, go to Spain…
Wait, no, that's Paldea, return to Galar, we want Sun