What is better classic WotLK vs TBC? – Hydra

First, Can I get a AHHHH YEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

You're out of your mind putting cata and mop below retail lmfao. Cata and mop pvp are both better than wotlk, sry you quit at a terrible time but ya fkd up. S9 pinnacle of wow pvp.

Cata was like the fucking downfall for me. I guess we all had different experiences here.

Would love to see your take on a patch for Wrath+, what changes you would like to see.

gerneally agree with what u said man

I Respekt people for saying that wotlk is better then retail pvp. But how can u like a Game where just 40% of the population Play just 2 Classes bc there are Broken? Retail pvp is getting close to wotlk now with the fast gameplay but without That 3 Classes dominate an Expansion. There More Balance updates Every month and so it is for like Every class. In wotlk if i want to play something what is Not Meta i dont find Mates and Face only These trash Warriors That think it is skillfull to Play warr/hpal

Hard agree on that the score would go from 7 to 8 if shit like sacred cleansing, dispel resists were heavily nerfed or removed (maybe 15% chance instead of 30%) and all the random 2-5% 'chance to be missed' completely removed. That would make the game SO much better. Maybe I'm biased cause I play shaman mage

I would honestly love to see an entire video on how and why you think Cata is trash. It just doesn't make any sense to me considering you're giving MoP a 6 (which is about what I would give MoP because MoP was cata but on steroids where every class got 100 abilties and it was fucking mental). BUuI honestly think I'd give Cata an 8 along with wrath. BOTH xpacs were incredibly competitive, but I think classes became "complete" with the changes in cata (without becoming extreme like MoP). Like for instance, disc priests in Wrath literally have one CD. Pain suppression, which isn't even really that good, I've died, I've seen hydra die, and many other priests die with pain up. But thats it, you have trinket and pain. but in cataclysm you gain, barrier, and grip. I don't know, I would need an entire monologue to justify why I think Cata felt more complete. I just don't understand how you could possibly call it trash. I think everyone should have the abilities they had in Cata but tone it down to the Wrath state. I'm probably making no sense but whatever.

Edit: Now I wasn't "at the top of the mountain" in either original wrath, cata, or MoP, in wrath mainly because I never pvp'd in wrath for whatever reason, but in cata/MoP I was 2400 floater (definitely not rank 1) but I'd say I was a decent player, and definitely not at basecamp.

the f he say? momentum is demon hunter spell/talent

Wotlk would be godly if you remove every rng mechanic such as parry, dodge, resist and sacred cleansing. Dodging or parrying a kidney that would have killed you feels very unfair. Also 45 min matches is zzzz

if it was up to me, I would have eliminated preg pal in classic. I would have made the talent tree to be impossible. Eliminating or balancing somehow double rogue, beast cleave, feral rog, all this bullshit…preg ench ofc and make pal warr weaker, the game would be so great. To me, preg grew like a fucking cancer on wow's face. A fucking tumor, that needs to be cut out to save the rest of the body.

I would say that Wrath+ could take some key pointers from the balance changes that Malaco implemented in Arena Tournament, back in the day.
Arena Tournament at its peak was the top of World of Warcraft arena gameplay, in my humble opinion.

Wrong about Cata. It's like wrath with better class balance. Not talking about the early patch

kinda of a delusional video because alot classes weren't even viable in tbc so from there perspective tbc was dog shit, i played a feral in tbc and it was cancer on the soul but in wrath its really fun and actually works like a normal class.

In my opinion TBC has all the bad RNG stuff which is infuriating, but outside of the RNG the gameplay itself is much better and higher skillcapped in TBC. But the biggest difference in TBC vs Wrath as to why TBC is much better is that the skill requirement gap between classes in wotlk is gigantic while in TBC the gaps are much smaller. For example, a Rogue/Disc team in Wotlk that is hardstuck 1900 could reroll Paladin/Warrior or Preg/DK and probably play around 2,9k or even push into 3k rating. Meanwhile a Rogue/Disc stuck at 1900 in TBC could reroll War/Druid and probably only gain 200 rating or so. Wotlk is full of examples like this, which is why it's a poor expansion.

Tbc is way better, wotlk git me dissapointed. Stoped already and startet a fresh on classic era firemaw